It’s certainly not the London(istan)s that Strocchers is talking about.

One exists within the Strocchiverse,

I will underlook that remark. I guess you are still smarting from having your ass kicked by a part-time amateur in the intellectual competition to see get the best scientific prediction of the federal election result.

Most observers agree that the blogs hosted the best psephologic analysis of the election. And the record shows that this little black duck made the closest call from the longest range out. This for the second election running.

So the “strocchiverse” is apparently not so very different from the one that every one else inhabits.

Until mark gets to the level where he can call the outcomes well before the fact, rather than spin the outcomes after the fact, he will be forever a mere pundit pressing his nose up against the glass.

I also enjoy refuting Mark’s denialist and delusionist Cultural Leftism, purely as an entertaining past-time.

Are Londonistan and London, the “high flyers’” destination two different places?

Yeah I can really see the with-it twenty somethings in Islington getting around in cloth bags and medieval robes when they slum it in Finchely Park on the weekend. You obviously dont know much about the social geography of London, do you? ROTFL.

Are Londonistan and London, the “high flyers’” destination two different places?

You learn more about public attitudes by keeping an eye on the street and following the money rather than idly sifting through the tendentious “survey” tea leaves.

Says the great social scientist who despises punditry!!!!

Jack, most of your “evidence” appears to be what the Howard government did and what a lot of right wing newspapers and shock jocks said. Message to Strocchiverse: Howard government defeated. Liberal party trashing his reputation.

Oh, I’m sorry, I see you discern the mood of the “populus” at the supermarket queue too:

And the general populus does not seem enamoured with it either, going by the subject matter in super market mags.

I hope you do so in an orderly fashion and don’t queue jump.

What offensive crap.

I do apologise if I have offended thee. It just seems striking to me that every other culture war story seems to have a rape sub-text or text. The Clark case, the Western Sydney hate crimes, the indigenous emergency etc. This underlines the contradictory nature of the Cultural Lefts project of reconciling diversity with womens rights.

mark says:

Rundle said in reply: So no, I wasn’t suggesting eliminating conservatives – simply getting more interesting ones.

Rundle is being disingenous when he says he says he “wasnt suggesting eliminating conservatives”. In his Crikey article he urged the Australian to purge most conservatives from its editorial line-up, bar “one such contrarian columnist”, for token purposes. This comment betrays the ideological megalomania and monomania of Cultural Leftists. They are intolerant of dissent. Look at the intellectual lynch mob that descended on Larry Summers and James Watson once they violated political correctness taboos.

mark says:

As for your stuff about the “The GREENs/DEM vote” that’s only a proxy for cultural liberalism in your own mind.

And the other parties which will serve as a proxies for cultural liberalism, who would they be? The ALP? Ha, Ha, Ha. Its been thoroughly whipped into shape by Howard’s successful prosecution of the Culture Wars. Mundine and Rudd support the intervention.

mark says:

The survey evidence about changed and changing social attitudes in Australia refutes you.

That and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee. The survey evidence is spin by a gaggle of Wets with too much time on their hands and not enough sense in their minds. You learn more about public attitudes by keeping an eye on the street and following the money rather than idly sifting through the tendentious “survey” tea leaves.

Read the Melbourne Weekly or visit the revived Harlem if you want to know what people of all walks of life are aspiring to: property values. In the major metros no one – black, white or brindle – wants a mini Londonistan or Bedford Stuy springing up next door with typical households sitting on $500 k homes and kids being shunted off to pricey traditional schools.

Sure there has been some liberalising of public attitudes on soft issues like abortion and gay marriage. But these issues have not been seriously contested by the Cultural Right because they dont have a drastic effect on social functionality.

I’ll give you porn. The Cultural Left and Commercial Right can claim victory on the unstoppable tsunami of sleaziness and sluttiness that has washed over the public sphere. Its not exactly “freedoms proudest boast” though, is it?

Public opinion has shifted substantially to the Right on cultural matters over the past decade or so. The high tide of social liberalism has ebbed. Social liberals are a vanishing breed in parliament. MPs have to answer to constituents who are way past giving a free pass to drug addicts, porn peddlers and gang-bangers.

The fashionable Big Picture ideas of the seventies and eighties have been discredited because their purveyors – people like those on this blog – refused to acknowledge tried and tested wisdom about human nature or learn from failed experiments with social structure. But then incorrigibility to evidence has always been the point of post-modernism.

The Cultural Right has been making all the running in the high profile issues of border security, national identity, family sanctity, indigenous affinity and ethnic diversity because they have a product that gets results. Mandatory detention is here to stay. The ANZAC legend continues to grow. We are in the midst of a mini-baby boom amongst educated women. The disastrous anomie in remote communities proves the need for authoritative law and order is ingrained in human nature, black or white. Hard core multicultural differentiation is giving way to civic integration as a settlement philosophy in AUS, the UK and CAN.

Multi-culti is a bust going by the preferences of those aspiring to improved status. Foreign language courses continue their decline in enrollments. Their is negligible native born interest in non-Christian religions. Ethnic fashions are not fashionable. SBS has gone sub-cultural and commercial. High flyers aim to work in London, LA-NYC or some other Asian former colony/entrepot of the Anglo-American empire. Upwardly mobile Asian immigrants seem to have a strange fascination with Presbyterianism.

And the general populus does not seem enamoured with it either, going by the subject matter in super market mags.

That does not mean the LN/P are without flaw. The one thing Howard had going for him was his authoritative “corporalism” (family, faith and flag) and more general social conservatism (dont rock the boat, white picket fences relaxed and comfortable etc). His biggest mistake was in IR, Work Choices threatened working families and introduced radical change into an area where tradition has served the majority well.

Rundle was not demanding a purge by (Ex)-GG management.

No, Rundle was suggesting a more effective business model for NewsCorp.

And this:

The common denominator in all three cases is the Cultural Lefts monomaniacal commitment to celebrating and encouraging diversity at all costs. And rape. Lots of rape. And a nods as good as wink in the direction of female genital mutilation. That seems to be the ticket. This from people who pretend to care for women and children.

Strocchi’s purulence has finally begun to feed upon itself. Run for your lives. He’s gunna blow!

The common denominator in all three cases is the Cultural Lefts monomaniacal commitment to celebrating and encouraging diversity at all costs. And rape. Lots of rape. And a nods as good as wink in the direction of female genital mutilation. That seems to be the ticket.

What offensive crap.

Also its revolting, but not surprising, to see Rundle giving way to his despotic urges. He called for a purge of the Australian’s right wing columnists, to be replaced with non-right wingers because right wingers “have no dialogue with the times” ie they do not jump on fashionable band-wagons. Since that is the point of conservatism it follows that Rundle is pretty much opposed to conservatives having any mainstream access at all. These are the kind of people who lecture us on liberty.

I see you’re taking your talking points from the horse’s mouth, Dr Albrechtsen.

http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/janetalbrechtsen/index.php/theaustralian/comments/orwellian_left_quick_to_unveil_totalitarian_heart

As Rundle said in reply:

So no, I wasn’t suggesting eliminating conservatives – simply getting more interesting ones. The problem with Albrechtsen is that she’s ludicrous, and, now boring through repetition. Indeed much of News Ltd’s obsessions proved irrelevant to most Australians, and were always pretty much projective fantasy in any case. Take Planet’s first column out after The Nov 24 Glorious Restoration, on the possibility of a bill of rights. There’s good arguments for and against bills of rights (and I incline to the latter position) but Albrechtsen’s manner is simply to – and sing along if you know it – bang on about the “rights industry”, activist judges etc etc.

It’s tiresome and irrelevant to the vexed question of how we frame laws, to keep kicking that battered can. The same topics and the same arguments, the same sub-Coulteresque rhetoric going round and round – quite possibly because Albrechtsen has nothing much more to say, and no great intellectual curiosity. Ditto with the Akermans, Bolts, Blairs etc – they’ve seen themselves as shock troops, and the surge failed.

Does Albrechtsen genuinely believe that suggesting a privately owned media company should dump a columnist to create a better product is totalitarian in impulse? If so she has a pretty inflated idea of her own importance to democratic debate. Alternatively, it’s just rhetoric, which would suggest she hasn’t understood how over all that stuff is.

As the only national broadsheet, The Australian has the opportunity to have a great pluralist op-ed section, and an unbiased news section. It won’t take that step because its principals lack the courage to have their own ideas challenged on home turf.

http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-Arts-and-Sports/20071212-Rundle-v-Albrechtsen-Round-3.html

As for your stuff about the “The GREENs/DEM vote” that’s only a proxy for cultural liberalism in your own mind. The survey evidence about changed and changing social attitudes in Australia refutes you. And what if “border protection” is the “hot topic” in the US? As this election demonstrated, Australia isn’t America.

Rundle goes on to refute that, citing social attitudes on abortion, Family First’s miniscule vote, the fact that there’s stuff on the telly that would have “caused conniptions” in years gone by, etc, etc. He argues, and it’s an argument that has been made quite a number of times at this blog too, that Howard was the last obstacle to a recognition that change actually has come.

More delusional nonsense on the end of the culture wars from the Larva Prodders. I suppose they have to remain in denial since acknowledging the systemic failures of post-modern liberalism would call into question the utility of their HECS bill accumulate during the time wasted studying liberal arts.

Rundle’s socially liberal issues dont amount to a hill of beans. Abortion is and always will be a low-intensity conflict. Family First did not exist until four years ago but has a small dedicated following, no doubt connected with the mini Baby Boom.

The GREENs/DEM vote is 30% down from 1996, this in an era of unprecedented environmental consciousness. Multiculturalism is dead in the water and on the nose in USE. Border Protection is the hot political topic in the USA. The Republic sentiment appears to be in secular decline.

But at least people can now enjoy porn “on the telly” breakfast, noon and night. The Cultural Left and Economic Right’s save their proudest boast for their pornographic achievements: the masturbation generation comes of age live on broadcast TV. What jerks!

Also its revolting, but not surprising, to see Rundle giving way to his despotic urges. He called for a purge of the Australian’s right wing columnists, to be replaced with non-right wingers because right wingers “have no dialogue with the times” ie they do not jump on fashionable band-wagons. Since that is the point of conservatism it follows that Rundle is pretty much opposed to conservatives having any mainstream access at all. These are the kind of people who lecture us on liberty.

Meanwhile back in the real world, the culture war – ie the the conflict over cultural identity, both in general for the majority and specifically over the social status of minorities – continues to flare up. Someone seems to have forgotten to tell the geist that its Zeit was up. A brief overview of a week in the Culture War is illuminating.

Mackllin has proposedextending Howard’s authoritarian intervention to other states and non-Aboriginals who default on their civic obligations. The saner parts of the ALP know when its time for adult supervision of the loony Left in the territories.

Noble Park is inlockdown dealing with ethnic gangstas exploiting their status as refugees to terrorise the local community. You cant blame them totally, they have come from a bad place. But their situation is made much worse by the confluence of multicultural policies and subcultural privileges. Both part of the Cultural Left’s program designed to maximise social disaster.

And in QLD a prosecutor has been stood down because he thought that pack rapists deserved only a slap on the wrist, due to cultural differences in the notion of sexual assault. Apparently the pack rapists were only kidding.

The common denominator in all three cases is the Cultural Lefts monomaniacal commitment to celebrating and encouraging diversity at all costs. And rape. Lots of rape. And a nods as good as wink in the direction of female genital mutilation. That seems to be the ticket. This from people who pretend to care for women and children.

None of these events were dog-whistled up from “the GG” or played as a race card by Liberal Party HQ. They bubbled up from a civil society still bamboozled by the ideological garbage and clinging to the institutional wreckage left in the wake of the Cultural Left’s long march.

I am sure that Howard’s legatees will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of so many free kicks in front of goal being set up by their “useful idiots” on the Left. Cripes, being a conservative social democrat in these dopey times is giving me the unpleasant sensation of deja vu.

You mean it’s not all about Janet? Her ego must be crushed

She obviously either hasn’t read, or has failed to understand, Guy Rundle’s piece.

Why, oh why, do they hate reality so?

Maybe rightists should huddle up to get their own stories straight before they sally forth to take on TEH LEFT (aka, the winners).