Comments on: There oughta be… an inquiry! http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:58:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Ambigulous http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7672 Ambigulous Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:41:18 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7672 mark @ 2, yes, they kept on taking it from JWH, with scarcely a murmur (don't Petro and Judy M and Russell Broadbent in 2006 stand out?); they kept on taking in the diktats and mouthing them in public, then suddenly his "magic" disappeared, and there they were poor buggers my Country Party and poor buggers the Liberals, wandering round like "cargo cult" believers, wondering why the flow of goodies had trickled away to nothing. Goodies gone? Must've been the fault of the Baddies! If we shout and complain and scream and shout long enough about the Baddies, they'll stop leading us in the polls, won't they? So they shouted and huffed and puffed and it got them a bloody big defeat. It'll be interesting to see how many of the ex-cultists will pinpoint their old cargo cult as their own fault, and attempt to make amends. In the other tribe, at least Simon Crean TRIED to reduce that running sore "branch stacking"; he deserves credit for having a red hot dip on that. Results? I dunno, not being an ALP member. It's the kind of topic that gets a run in the Press for a while then vanishes for years, while the Branches are being quietly stacked. mark @ 2,

yes, they kept on taking it from JWH, with scarcely a murmur (don’t Petro and Judy M and Russell Broadbent in 2006 stand out?); they kept on taking in the diktats and mouthing them in public, then suddenly his “magic” disappeared, and there they were poor buggers my Country Party and poor buggers the Liberals, wandering round like “cargo cult” believers, wondering why the flow of goodies had trickled away to nothing.

Goodies gone? Must’ve been the fault of the Baddies! If we shout and complain and scream and shout long enough about the Baddies, they’ll stop leading us in the polls, won’t they? So they shouted and huffed and puffed and it got them a bloody big defeat.

It’ll be interesting to see how many of the ex-cultists will pinpoint their old cargo cult as their own fault, and attempt to make amends. In the other tribe, at least Simon Crean TRIED to reduce that running sore “branch stacking”; he deserves credit for having a red hot dip on that. Results? I dunno, not being an ALP member. It’s the kind of topic that gets a run in the Press for a while then vanishes for years, while the Branches are being quietly stacked.

]]> By: professor rat http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7574 professor rat Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:44:35 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7574 Why cant the Ron Paul style right and our beautiful democratic socialist Blogistan *together* drown the centrist Howard/Rudd minotaur in the bathtub? The same sort of Impi tactics that voted down the centralized EU superstate a few years ago can work together brilliantly, just loosely networked over the web. A latter day united front if you will. Advancing in diversity - striking in unison - the military-entertainment superstate will lose - we will win Why cant the Ron Paul style right and our beautiful democratic socialist Blogistan *together* drown the centrist Howard/Rudd minotaur in the bathtub?
The same sort of Impi tactics that voted down the centralized EU superstate a few years ago can work together brilliantly, just loosely networked over the web. A latter day united front if you will.
Advancing in diversity - striking in unison - the military-entertainment superstate will lose - we will win

]]> By: paul walter http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7521 paul walter Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:05:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7521 Some were scared of Turncow, as likely a dominant voice. But also because it would have meant abandoning long nurtured and cherished but obsolete and ignoble flat-earth notions and policies held by these and they were scared not because the ( relative ) progressives ( oxymoron; I know ) were likely to be unsuccessful, but because the reactionaries dimly at last sensed their own lack of intellect and ideas and knew their nonsenses would be knocked down in the light of modern experience. Turnbull and Hockey alone offered them a way out of the broken down neo lib condundrum, by trying to enable the Libs to avoid denialism over things like "Sorry" and NoChoices, but that idiot Minchin organised the troglodytes and the result was that the Liberals remained in the Nineteenth century and the country was denied a reasonable Opposition. So, within moments of assuming leadership, mouthpiece Nelson denied it its one chance of legitamacy through a break with the past both on practical and ethical grounds, with the race Apology reneging. Some were scared of Turncow, as likely a dominant voice. But also because it would have meant abandoning long nurtured and cherished but obsolete and ignoble flat-earth notions and policies held by these and they were scared not because the ( relative ) progressives ( oxymoron; I know ) were likely to be unsuccessful, but because the reactionaries dimly at last sensed their own lack of intellect and ideas and knew their nonsenses would be knocked down in the light of modern experience.
Turnbull and Hockey alone offered them a way out of the broken down neo lib condundrum, by trying to enable the Libs to avoid denialism over things like “Sorry” and NoChoices, but that idiot Minchin organised the troglodytes and the result was that the Liberals remained in the Nineteenth century and the country was denied a reasonable Opposition.
So, within moments of assuming leadership, mouthpiece Nelson denied it its one chance of legitamacy through a break with the past both on practical and ethical grounds, with the race Apology reneging.

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7474 Paul Burns Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:25:45 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7474 Mark, I read somewhere in the reporting of the new leadership selection that one reason Turnbull wasn't selected was because members feared there would be yet mor of the handing down from on high they'd had under Howard. Of course it was more complicated than that ; Howardistas, favours owed, moderates versus the right, the West against Turnbull, Minchin as Svengali etc., Will give the matter a bit more thought and make a more general obsertvation soon. Mark,
I read somewhere in the reporting of the new leadership selection that one reason Turnbull wasn’t selected was because members feared there would be yet mor of the handing down from on high they’d had under Howard. Of course it was more complicated than that ; Howardistas, favours owed, moderates versus the right, the West against Turnbull, Minchin as Svengali etc., Will give the matter a bit more thought and make a more general obsertvation soon.

]]> By: David http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7466 David Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:05:59 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7466 " ... voting without thinking." That's SOP for them, isn't it? ” … voting without thinking.” That’s SOP for them, isn’t it?

]]> By: mbahnisch http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7433 mbahnisch Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:58:32 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7433 There is that! But then I suppose they're out of the habit, since most of them were used to receiving diktats from on high and voting without thinking. There is that! But then I suppose they’re out of the habit, since most of them were used to receiving diktats from on high and voting without thinking.

]]> By: Ambigulous http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7427 Ambigulous Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:51:44 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/there-oughta-be-an-inquiry/#comment-7427 "solemn pronouncements that the Parliament will examine Labor’s bills" indeed! Forsooth, if Coalition MP's DIDN'T examine Labor's bills, they shouldn't be drawing a salary! “solemn pronouncements that the Parliament will examine Labor’s bills”

indeed!
Forsooth, if Coalition MP’s DIDN’T examine Labor’s bills, they shouldn’t be drawing a salary!

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