L’affaire Overington

In case you haven’t been following the Caroline Overington/Danielle Ecuyer/George Newhouse saga, Derek Barry has provided a very comprehensive summary at Woolly Days. I think he missed Rupe’s comments about disciplinary action, but Darryl Mason has that covered at The Orstrahyun.

I’m starting to wonder if even Wentworth voters are getting sick of the Wentworth campaign.

And I can’t be bothered reading the GG any more, not even to lampoon it. What a bunch of clowns this affair has shown them to be. Are they so drunk on hubris that they won’t even dance to their master’s tune anymore? If Labor win, it’ll be interesting to see if Chris Mitchell and the rest of them keep their gigs. I mean, what credibility do they have left? And is there any purpose in being the Divided and Desiccated Opposition Times?

Just joking, sweetie! 😉

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105 comments on “L’affaire Overington
  1. silkworm says:

    I don’t think the Ecuyer-Overington affair will have much impact on the Wentworth result. What may have an impact is the later story that Newhouse may not have quit his public service job in time to become a candidate. Of course it is a dirty tricks campaign from the Liberals, and most voters in Wentworth are intelligent enough to see through it. However, there are those few who may be persuaded that a vote for Newhouse may be a wasted vote, and this may be enough to push Turnbull over the line. Whatever the outcome, both stories point to Turnbull’s criminal tendencies.

  2. H&R says:

    They’ll editorialise their way out of Coalition Straits and into Camp Rudd, and set up shop there for the next few years. Sheridan already churned out his ‘THROUGH WITH YOU, HOWARD’ bit the other day.

    The Australian = Pravda.

  3. jo says:

    as a wentworth gal, the overington scandal is more a national issue, ie. the same % of people who care/read the Oz/media watch will be interested.

    the george not being properly enrolled is more worrisome for his campaign overall, although will die a quick death if it’s totally nothing.

    and the danielle/george personal saga doesn’t raise any eyebrows in these parts…darling, i mean who doesn’t have a couple of ex-wives/husbands?

    danielle btw. had a lovely colour photo in the courier today with her “hunks” as they are called – two young blokes carrying her around on a surfboard, “who will be helping her with her campaign”! hunkettes to be announced soon, she says (seriously).

    and peter king has just popped his head up to bag howard and list his top priorities on the front page – a huge photo of him – the issues listed on the cover – 1. Elderly Health Care. 2. Taxation. 3. Water Planning. 4. Men’s Health. 5. Public vs Private education 6. University funding. 7. Welfare organisation support. 8. Government Accountability 9. Alternative Transport 10. More drugs……on the PBS

    it just gets messier and messier!! and i’m loving it.

  4. Shaun says:

    The Devine Miss M sez it is the fault of humourless lefties.

  5. haiku says:

    No doubt Miranda regards all this as a joke as well.

  6. paul walter says:

    Must follow A&G. Dirty politics but is Hobhouse drowning in puddle of red tape?
    Talk about “Judge Deed”!
    This is definitely feminised politics of a species to make “Passions” look tame and one hopes the onlooking electorate rebukes Oves for being stupid enough to email instead of ‘verbal’; with Ecoutier making sure by directing preferences to Henhouse, that Oves drowns in her own sepsis…

  7. Lloyd says:

    Miranda’s self serving witless attack inspired the following letter from me to the SMH this morning:

    “Janet Albrechtsen was busted by Media Watch after she was caught altering a quote from a source by inserting her own words into the quote to change its meaning completely. Miranda Devine might find that amusing, the rest of us see it as a serious breach of ethics. The scoffing derision in the SMH newsroom over Miranda’s trip to Baghdad was replicated out here in readerland. It would have been much cheaper to get Petraeus to fax the press release such was the value and insight she gave us in her ‘news stories’.

    Of the 3 of Overington is the only one that can be considered a proper journalist with a track record to back it, which makes it doubly distressing to see her methods laid bare in the email trails to Ecuyer and Newhouse. It’s not the humour we are missing but the bullying and sleazy nature of the exchanges which is obvious to all but the most partisan apologist.

  8. paul walter says:

    A further bubble- Does anyone recall Oves doing a job on Kostakidis on behalf of Albrechtsen, as well?
    Am sure it came up on a Darlene thread, when Kostakidis got ostracised by Shaun Brown and his henchman Cutler. Or was it to do with a contemporary ad hominem on Media Watch for something they dared to criticse the Oz over, about roughly the same time ?
    Oves, Albrechtsen, Devine…
    Boggles the mind, doesn’t it?
    Makes me think of the fearsome crones of Classical Antiquity like withered spiders at their spinning wheels, the cold dispirited Fates Clotho, Atropos and Larchesis ( Or Juliette Mills and that dwarfy characterthat always hangs round with her? ).
    Trouble is, where do I then include Julie Bishop?

  9. philiptravers says:

    If only the farmer-shareholders got something for reading Overington, then maybe the worth that wents would be wentworth,and not decidely boring to see a Murdoch killjoy being the maker or breaker.Pleasnt face though,does her funny bone work!?

  10. Foucault A Go Go says:

    It seems as though Danielle Ecuyer has won this one, judging by how easily many here seem to have fallen for her “oh my, I thought journalists were supposed to be like priests in a confessional. Nobody told me!!” She is an extremely canny media tart. An investemnt banker who grew up in Bellvue Hill and went to Ascham, she could con Peter Foster.

  11. Foucault A Go Go says:

    If she bums out at this election, watch her do a cover for Zoo and Maxim before launching some other political party. Pauline Hanson with a bob and more rounded vowels.

  12. boredinHK says:

    From the ABC thread- “I’m hoping that if the Albrechtsens and Windschuttles of the world don’t have the decency to resign from the Board (and let’s face it, a Rudd victory might make it much harder for them to claim they represent “the people”), that a reshaping of Board appointment processes in the direction of transparency and bipartisanship and genuine expertise and staff representation, which Rudd is expected to deliver, would provide a good argument for legislating to chuck the whole existing Board out and start afresh.”

    Now this idea “If Labor win, it’ll be interesting to see if Chris Mitchell and the rest of them keep their gigs. I mean, what credibility do they have left? And is there any purpose in being the Divided and Desiccated Opposition Times?

    Just joking, sweetie! ”

    Chairperson Kim , Commissar for The Dear Leader! One mention of her displeasure to the proprietors and whoosh – thats another career ended.

  13. gandhi says:

    Overington has now gone to ground, Chris Mitchell is brushing this aside, and Murdoch is just covering his ass. But this is just part of how News Ltd does business, as we all know full well.

    The bigger story is that at least SOMEBODY IN A SENIOR NEWS CORPORATION POSITION IS A MAFIA ASSET. And the mafia ties go all the way to the White House. More here:

    http://howardout.blogspot.com/2007/11/chez-murdoch-corruption-all-way-to-top.html

  14. Sir Henry says:

    I note, with interest, that La Devine weighs in defending Overington in this morning’s Smage. The line is: it was all a joke. The evidence being proferred is that Caroline is like that in real life, always a jolly jape here and bon mot there, irrepressible and irreverent and that’s why we all love her.

    Then Miranda tries to shoot the messenger, Media Watch, with the crosshairs on Tim Palmer and Monica Attard. And also, it is all the feminists’ fault.

    The attack on Media Watch is somewhat absurd, because the item, if anything, was a skilful if bitchy winkling out of a trivial story that started as an email exchange and ended up as a major national news item that got a kick along with the owner of the paper, the currently touring Mr Morlock being asked questions about it.

    But Miranda (is there a diminutive here? Mirrie? Randy? Viewers at Home suggestions welcome) had nothing to do with being part of a Big Picture, a vendetta against fearless columnists – Overington, Albrechsten and her good self – that won’t get into lockstep with the feminazis (like Attard and her ABC comrades).

    On the one hand, Overington and her editor Chris Mitchell defend the notion that all is fair in getting a story, even borderline unethical behaviour, on the other hand, Devine is bleating foul over Media Watch going for Caroline’s throat.

    Embarrassingly, La Devine’s daddy, Frank, an ancient, long-time Morlock retainer and factotum, has a piece in Quadrant saying there’s nothing wrong with a bit of beating up, that’s what down-and-dirty journalism is all about. As an old-fashioned Morlock tit and bum tabloid hack he would know.

    I understand that the editor of The Opposition Bugle gave Overington a right bollocking while he had to publicly go into bat for the dumb Morlockette.

    And one would have loved to have been at Lucio’s (Paddington, NSW) at Mr Morlock’s table as the affair was discussed over confit of duck. The joke did not amuse the great man, who is here to consolidate his relationship with Kev and congratulate him on picking up on Mr Morlock’s own suggestion to run with the digital revolution concept in his campaign. Which is also a winner for Mr Morlock.

  15. Helen says:

    At the risk of stating the bleedin’ obvious, I hate the double standard going on here. The tabloids jumped all over Peter Garrett’s “joke”, and I’m sure both Devines jnr and snr wouldn’t pass up the opportunity to bag out a leftie journalist who they found guilty of some beatup.

  16. joe2 says:

    Helen, somtimes the bleeding obvious needs to be stated. Garrett was crucified for his jest. Here is the link to Devine in todays SMH..titled.. Left wing missing its funny bone.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/left-wing-missing-its-funny-bone/2007/11/14/1194766768762.html

  17. Katz says:

    Then Miranda tries to shoot the messenger, Media Watch, with the crosshairs on Tim Palmer and Monica Attard. And also, it is all the feminists’ fault.

    Indeed Sir Hank.

    Maybe, as Miranda alleges, all those lefty-loser feminazis and their closet gay beards in the ABC Kremlin have gone mad and lost their senses of humour during the reign of King John The Mirthful.

    But on the other hand, the ABC Proletcultists got their subversive hands on the emails in question, only because Ecuyer, who was supposed to be in on Ove’s girlish glee, dropped the whole file on Tim Palmer’s desk.

    Bricklike, Miranda winks at Ecuyer’s treachery.

    Three little maids from school are we
    Pert as a school-girl well can be
    Filled to the brim with girlish glee
    Three little maids from school

    Everything is a source of fun
    Nobody’s safe, for we care for none
    Life is a joke that’s just begun
    Three little maids from school

    But wait! Here comes the Murdochako!

    All prosy dull society sinners,
    Who chatter and bleat and bore,
    Are sent to hear sermons
    From mystical Germans
    Who preach from ten till four.

  18. Foucault A Go Go says:

    I will be the first to admit I will not miss Tim Palmer and Monica Attard.

  19. gandhi says:

    Regular GG-bashers must agree that this whole business of political interference by News Ltd has been going on far too long, and is now way beyond any kind of a joke.

    The question, it seems to me, is what are we going to DO about it?

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for a Rudd government to get stuck into the Murdoch Empire! A Royal Commission into News Ltd’s political interference is a nice dream, but it’s not gonna happen. Fairfax is only going to push things so far, since they sip from the same trough in the long run. The ABC gets hammered every time they squeak truth to power.

    Is independent citizen media (like LP and Crikey and others) going to be the solution?

    I was thinking this morning on the drive to work that Rupert Murdoch desperately needs to have a near-death experience, which might awaken him to the concept that there is more to life than just relentlessly building his business empire. Seems to me that everything he does (perhaps even marrying a young Chinese wife as a means of finally ingratiating himself into that country’s power elite) is driven by this rather psychotically narrow vision. A lot of people are just waiting for the old bastard to die, but there are no signs his kids would be better.

    The empire might break up, of course: wouldn’t it be ironic if the venture capitalist vultures descended on Sussex Street HQ? I wonder how much they could get from pawning off the staff? Heh.

  20. suzeoz says:

    “I’m starting to wonder if even Wentworth voters are getting sick of the Wentworth campaign.”

    I’m enjoying it – it makes a change from the deadly dull national campaign.
    I reckon Dani has completely blown it. The ‘legality’ of the Newhouse candidature is a worry. I’m not sure what (if any)implications that has for how I’ll preference my vote.

  21. Foucault A Go Go says:

    gandhi

    You seem to have a very naive understanding of what journalism is about and how the media works. To be honest, I laughed my head off at the preciousness and disingenuousness of Attard and Palmer’s swansong.

  22. gandhi says:

    Thanks, Foucault. I cling to my precious naiveté like a Leunig creation clings to his duck.

  23. Shaun says:

    suz, not sure if you have to worry re the issue with Newhouse. Previosuly, where a candidate has won a seat but forced into a by-election due to an issue with their candidacy, the candidate won the by-election. Jackie Kelly in 1996 for example (who forgot to resign from the RAAF in time as well renounce being a Kiwi).

  24. Sharkbait says:

    WAs Richard Wilkinks about to verify the jocularity of the emails? Or maybe Danielle Ecuyer was a witness to truth?

  25. suzeoz says:

    Turnbull is a desperate man and a lawyer to boot.(Just about every Wentworth candidate is a lawyer, including Dixie Coulson for Climate Change Coalition.)I wouldn’t put it past him to try and mount some legal challenge before the election.

  26. joe2 says:

    “Please preference Malcolm. It would be such a good front-page story. Also, he’d be a loss to the Parliament and George – forgive me – would be no gain.”

    There is no way you can dress the last sentence up as ‘just joking’, no matter how hard Devine trys. It is an obvious attempt to influence an election result, by a journalist. Even Ruppy knows it and the GG editor, as well. Devine is attempting to defend the indefensible with that tired old script, that Leftys just dont know how to take a joke.

    Attard and Palmer have presented the tamest Media Watch that I can remember and yet are attacked as if they are in some kind of leftist conspiracy.

    Incidentally, if the left is so devoid of a sense of humour how come you just don’t see leftish funny work swamped out by hilarious right-wing comedians at festivals all around the world?

  27. mbahnisch says:

    Wentworth folks, how well known around the traps was Dani Ecuyer before this all broke?

    Just wondering…

  28. Sam says:

    Mark @ 27: I’d never heard of her before. And after her little stunt with the climate hunks to get teh gay voting for her, I hope never to hear from her again.

    That’s not to say she’s not well-known in the ‘hood, however. For all I know she may well be on first name terms with the good folk at Harris Farms Edgecliff Shopping Centre!

  29. gandhi says:

    “Dear Adolf,

    Please invade Poland. It would be such a good front-page story. Also, failure to assimilate the Poles would be a loss to the Fatherland whereas Liechtenstein – forgive me – would be no gain.”

    OH JUST JOKING!!! HA HA!!!

  30. gandhi says:

    Wentworth folks, how well known around the traps was Dani Ecuyer before this all broke?

    Does it really matter, Mark? Are you being sucked into the rightwing overkill vortex?

    Even if Ecuyer is a “glamourpuss” (as Devine cattily puts it) playing the media for all it’s worth, that does not make Overington’s behaviour OK.

  31. Su says:

    Oh very nice versifying, Katz. Do you think you can work in a verse where Miranda and her fellow school girls wander off from an Appleyard college fieldtrip and bring destruction down on their own heads like so many tonnage of rockfall?

  32. mbahnisch says:

    I wasn’t saying it was, gandhi, but Ecuyer is clearly playing this for all it’s worth. Media critique has to be more analytic than “Overington bad, Ecuyer good!”…

  33. Katz says:

    I wish I could claim it as my own Su. In fact it was a ready-made from the pen of W. S. Gilbert.

    But here goes:

    Uncle Rupy hates Mr Rudd
    He pays us squillions to write our crud…
    But wait, Granpa Ratty’s on the nose
    We’ll change our tunes, we suppose
    For we’re all Uncle Rupy’s tools…

  34. Kwakpwns says:

    Teh Overington has written another “colourful” piece. Apparently Labor arrogantly thinks they will win the election…. because three former ALP prime ministers attended the Labor party launch.

    http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/coverington/index.php/theaustralian/comments/labor/

  35. joe2 says:

    Mark, when supposedly serious journalists, so obviously, play favourites that is the issue.

    You do not turn around and wonder about the whistleblowers motives. They are the little fish in the power game.

  36. Katz says:

    Apparently Labor arrogantly thinks they will win the election…. because three former ALP prime ministers attended the Labor party launch.

    Nice.

    Mr Costello was at the Liberal launch. Apparently, he thinks he’s going to be the next Prime Minister.

    $mirky’s less arrogant than delusional, but.

  37. suzeoz says:

    I had heard of Ecuyer before this election – she started the Women for Change group (if I have the name right) about a year ago. Maybe I read an article in the local paper about her then. She was a single mother who was alarmed by climate change.

  38. mbahnisch says:

    joe2, obviously Overington and the GG are the issue, but it’s naive to think Ecuyer isn’t trading on all this to increase her profile so close to the election. Her “hunks” and (soon) “hunkettes” indicate she’s got a sharp eye for publicity. Good on her – she’s running a campaign, after all.

  39. joe2 says:

    So true Mark.

  40. mbahnisch says:

    Good choice of campaign colours I must say!

  41. Katz says:

    The money quote from Miranda:

    Ecuyer’s campaign has been a joke from the start…

    But the frivolous nature of Ecuyer’s campaign was truly revealed in her publicity stunt on Bondi Beach on Sunday when she enlisted two barechested beefcakes she called “climate hunks” to hoist her onto a surfboard and carry her across the sand for a photo opportunity she said was aimed at attracting “gays”.

    Miranda ought to work harder at concealing her disingenuousness.

    The world knows:

    1. Wentworth is on an electoral knife-edge.

    2. Ecuyer is polling well enough to make her preferences vital in determining the victor in this election.

    3. Turnbull is the Great White Hope for the NSW Federal Liberal Party. His political career could be snuffed out by this election.

    Is it possible that Miranda Devine does not know these things?

    If Devine does know these things, then it beggars belief that she’d characterise Ecuyer’s role as “frivolous” and “a joke”.

    If Devine doesn’t know these things, she is the least informed journalist in the world.

    But, of course, Devine does know the importance of Ecuyer. And now, she knows that Overington has created a monster that could devour the hopes and plans of the Liberal Party.

    And now we know that Miranda is busy trying to limit the carnage.

    Nice job, gals!

  42. joe2 says:

    I suspect that nephews, can come in real handy, while working on a low budget campaign, as well, Mark. And Sam, you may have been a little bit hard on her.

  43. FDB says:

    What, was, that, again, Joe?

  44. Sir Henry says:

    Re link in post no. 34. Them’s fightin’ words there Caroline: “As for Keating, this is the man hurled from office with a ferocity rarely employed by Australian voters.” And which the latter may be in a position to have you masticate carefully in a not-too-distant future. I will be in the front row at breakfast, wearing a rubber apron, on Monday, November 26.

    Now to the matter of George Newhouse. It seems to me that there is not enough time to mount a challenge with the AE Commissioner, and an injunction would probably not be granted.

    Hence george would then go to the election, and should he win, the challenge would be mounted. If that was upheld then a byelection would be ordered.

    Newhouse would then be properly eligible to stand vis a vis the resignation from his part-time government position.

    Previous events of this kind indicate that he would then be returned with an increased majority because of the voter annoyance at the challengers (Malcolm Turnbull and the Liberal Party).

    Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong Viewers at Home. As you do.

  45. mbahnisch says:

    A couple of relevant stories in Crikey today:

    http://www.crikey.com.au/Election-2007/20071115-Drumroll-please-And-Dani-Ecuyers-preferences-go-to.html

    Ecuyer issues a split ticket on preferences.

    Guy Rundle has an amusing spray at the GG, and wonders if Murdoch has just sacked Mitchell:

    http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-Arts-and-Sports/20071115-Wentworthgate-just-the-latest-chapter-in-the-trashing-of-The-Oz.html

  46. mbahnisch says:

    2. Ecuyer is polling well enough to make her preferences vital in determining the victor in this election.

    How do we know that, Katz? I haven’t seen any polling on Wentworth which suggests that is the case.

  47. gandhi says:

    Another relevant story: the New South Wales Government has declined a debate over Newhouse’s eligibility – and apparently it’s all the GREENS’ fault!

    http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/15/2091769.htm

  48. Jenny says:

    I think the Overington matter is very difficult to decide. If I was arguing that she was trying to influence the election I would cite:

    – The lack of ambiguity of the offer
    – That she really did have something to trade (front page scoop to a candidate in desperate need of publicity)
    – That a number of her recent articles show an over-the-top LNP bias
    – That she was unable to interpret Garrett’s comment as jocular (something that should have been easy for her given her declared propensity for sending lighthearted emails).

    Or if I was arguing the opposite I would cite:
    – Her stories on the AWB and two Walkleys would appear to be the work of a credible journalist
    – I can well imagine that some innovative and not politically-correct approaches might be the stock in trade of a good journalist
    – I can’t imagine that somebody with two Walkleys would have used email for a serious attempt to influence a candidate.

    On balance, she has to get the benefit of the doubt. But her failure to give a similar benefit of the doubt to Peter Garrett, even with an independant witness backing his version, is disgraceful.

  49. Katz says:

    Simple, Mark.

    According to this story Galaxy puts the two major candidates at TPP 50% each.

    http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22758899-5001031,00.html

    Even if Ecuyer polls only 3%, which appears to be on the conservative side, then her preferences, assuming that they are tight, will be decisive.

  50. mbahnisch says:

    Sure, Katz, but effectively she’s running as an independent, and given that the Greens and the CCC are around to mop up most of the anti-pulp mill vote, I’m not convinced that she was in with a real chance for even that sort of vote. Lots of independents do very well indeed to get their deposit back. She probably had a bit of a profile among the political tragics, but the reason for my question was that I can’t say without living in the area what she’d been doing on the ground and how well known she was. Hence my scepticism (and sneaking admiration) about how all this has played for her in terms of profile building.

    I do take the point about the possible influence of her preferences, but I’d have thought issuing a split ticket, as she’s now done, undercuts the basis of her campaign against the pulp mill. It may have been a position she’s taken as a result of all this, in which case Overington et al really have influenced the election by highlighting her preference choices. Now there’s an interesting story…

  51. Katz says:

    …issuing a split ticket, as she’s now done…

    What is your source on this?

  52. mbahnisch says:

    I posted a link in a previous comment, Katz – the source is Crikey and they have scanned in the printed how to vote.

  53. mbahnisch says:

    I meant to add that I’ll be staying in Surry Hills from the Thursday before the election, and I’m looking forward to having a sniff around and chatting to a few locals I know about Wentworth.

  54. mbahnisch says:

    Here’s a direct link to her how to vote:

  55. Katz says:

    Thanks for that Mark.

    Ecuyer’s evenhandedness has short-circuited a potentially fascinating political story.

  56. mbahnisch says:

    I’ve got a feeling that her even-handedness is a direct result of Overington’s antics – going back a long way – all this “will she preference George because he’s her ex or punish him for the breakup” crap.

    I think that’s a potentially fascinating political story.

    Note that her preferences on both options go via the Greens and others before they get to either of the major parties.

    Given Labor’s me-too ism on the pulp mill, the Greens’ primary in Wentworth will be well worth watching.

  57. silkworm says:

    “I’ve got a feeling that her even-handedness is a direct result of Overington’s antics.”

    That is my suspicion as well.

    Ecuyer said on Lateline she will announce her preferences in a week’s time. She knows the spotlight is on her because her preferences will probably determine the outcome of the election in Wentworth. She knows she has to appear even-handed until that time if she is to retain her credibility. In the end, I believe she will preference Labor, because Rudd will sign Kyoto. I think the Libs know this, and that is why they have Overington playing her tricks, as well as threatening to expose Newhouse as an illegal candidate. Wentworth is a must-win for the Libs.

    Last time it was Bennelong where the most dirty tricks took place, and that was because of the Exclusive Brethren. This time the Brethren have been neutralized, and it’s Wentworth’s turn for the most dirty tricks of the campaign. I noticed Andrew Robb on the streets of Bondi Junction attacking the legality of the Newhouse candidacy. Robb is as dirty as they come. Shame on Turnbull for stooping so low. I thought he was a halfway decent man, but now I know better.

    If Turnbull wins and becomes Lib leader after the election, his dirtiness in this campaign will ensure that the Liberal Party, though severely depleted, remains corrupt. Turnbull will simply be stepping into the mold that Howard has created for the next Lib leader.

    Two weeks ago I spoke to a Labor lawyer who was in the same year as Turnbull and myself at Grammar, and he was saying that Labor had no problems with Turnbull becoming a PM in the future. It was Tony Abbott they were worried about.

  58. […] at Larvatus Prodeo they’re calling it L’Affair Overington, and it’s becoming more Zola-esque […]

  59. mbahnisch says:

    In the end, I believe she will preference Labor, because Rudd will sign Kyoto.

    Silkworm, as the Crikey link shows, she is not directing preferences to Labor but issuing a split ticket enabling her voters to preference either Newhouse or Turnbull.

  60. bird says:

    Mark Bahnish

    What will you be doing on Election Night…willyou be in the eastern suburbs/inner city …

  61. FDB says:

    True Mark, although the stench of this affair will have a lot of voters seeing a preference for Turnbull as a vote for La Overington.

  62. mbahnisch says:

    That may be so, FDB.

    bird, I’ll be at the party at the Bat & Ball in Surry Hills LP is hosting in conjunction with New Matilda and 2SER:

    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=5710747987

  63. FDB says:

    Bird – you sure about that moniker? 😉

  64. bird says:

    Great, I just checked this out. So, do I email you for tickets or what?

  65. joe2 says:

    “Now to the matter of George Newhouse. It seems to me that there is not enough time to mount a challenge with the AE Commissioner, and an injunction would probably not be granted.”

    Sir Henry, not sure whether you were on the High Court when the case of one Phil Cleary came before their ‘onours in 1993. That decision would surely be the precedent in this possible thrilling new Newhouse thingy/saga.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Cleary

  66. mbahnisch says:

    No tix, bird. It’s free so just turn up!

  67. silkworm says:

    Channel Ten is reporting that Ecuyer is preferencing Labor.

  68. mbahnisch says:

    Have they quoted her? It seems to me the Crikey scan of the printed how to vote card is pretty compelling evidence, unless Ecuyer herself comes out and says otherwise.

  69. silkworm says:

    They didn’t quote her. They were going off the Crikey scan I guess. On the surface, that card could be read as a split preference, but realistically, anyone who voted for Ecuyer would be influenced by the comment at the bottom that the Libs won’t sign Kyoto and Labor will. In effect she is preferencing Labor.

    Ecuyer’s ticket could put Newhouse over the line, but then I think Turnbull’s casting doubt on Newhouse’s candidacy works in Turnbull’s favour. That makes it still too close to call for mine. We won’t know the effects until the next poll is taken in Wentworth.

  70. mbahnisch says:

    Oh, ok. I think she was quoted somewhere as saying there’d be a twist to her preferences or something. That must be the message about Kyoto.

    Interesting.

    I dunno about the Newhouse thing. If you were worried about Newhouse, presumably you’d already decided not to go with Turnbull, and therefore vote for the Greens or one of the other non-Turnbull candidates.

  71. jo says:

    mark, you are right about ecuyer raising her profile – as suzeoz says – i think i read about her in a local paper only earlier this year, but being “george’s recent ex and running against him” – was the big introduction. and of course, that got her 500 times more publicity than any other independent candidate and overington has now launched her internationally.

    as i’ve posted before, the real margin in wentworth is 5-7% (both possum and i agree on this btw) and i think malcolm will go to preferences & just hold on, unless there is a massive swing against the govt. so you are v. right about how important every preference vote is going to be.

    I expect the green vote to be bigger than in 2004 – which was 11.2%. there was an 18% green vote in the state election in 07, in this part of wentworth but there was a small flow to the liberals!!– which could push malcolm over the line for instance.

    Malcolm btw. is a fairly engaged local MP – he has been v. busy shoring up constituencies all over the electorate – like the north bondi surf club for example – which has over a thousand members including himself (not all locals) – by getting a multi-million grant to renovate the club etc.

    otoh, george was the local mayor of waverley which is both positive and negative – firstly in terms of profile and secondly in terms of bad development decisions, parking issues, rates blah –

    like all other marginals – national issues like workchoices, the pulp mill rub up against a barrage of small time yokel local stuff.

    i’m also v. happy to see ousted wentworth MP, peter king come back into the fray – (they really can’t help themselves) – this is not good news for malcolm – it was a bitter and vicious pre-selection battle that installed malcolm, and the only reason the ALP recorded such a high 2PP in 2004 – with his independent tilt preference flow.

    king btw. is a former state president of the liberal party, and a former mayor of woollahra council. and his wife is still on woollahra council….so there may just be some bad blue blood still pooling in some liberal hearts.

    i was assuming that they will all just ‘go home’ in this election, but maybe there might be a hard-core king support base which will back newhouse over turnbull…. it’s hard to believe, they probably just hoped peter would pull ahead of the ALP on primaries in 04 – but he fell short.

    then again – it’s a week out from the election, and pete’s sad mug is covering 2/3 of the front page of wentworth courier….it’s Dallas Down Under, here in wentworth.

  72. silkworm says:

    Now SBS is reporting that Ecuyer is preferencing the Greens, and is being bipartisan with respect to Lib and Labor, the complete opposite of what Channel Ten was reporting.

    SBS then went on to report on the nominations scandal, with the NSW Libs unsuccessfully trying to get Newhouse’s letter of resignation released. The NSW Greens sided with Labor to block the proposal. Turnbull said that it was not the Liberals fault that Newhouse “got his nomination wrong”, but Newhouse’s alone. But as far as we know, Newhouse did not get it wrong. That’s just speculation masquerading as fact. Turnbull is still playing his dirty tricks.

    “If you were worried about Newhouse, presumably you’d already decided not to go with Turnbull, and therefore vote for the Greens or one of the other non-Turnbull candidates.”

    That would be a sensible analysis. However, you can’t discount the moron vote.

  73. suzeoz says:

    I can’t see Ecuyer getting much of a vote at all. Why did she stand in the first place when there was a perfectly good Climate Change Coalition candidate and Greens candidate? It looks like oportunism and egotism to me, I’m afraid.
    I think the Greens will increase their primary vote. They’ll benefit from both main parties supporting the pulp mill and they have a good candidate (unlike last time). Newhouse as a personality hasn’t had much of a positive presence, from my point of view. The only good thing I’ve read from him was his speech to a gay group, reported in the SSO. Otherwise he hides behind pictures and slogans about Rudd.
    If polling shows a 50-50 split now, that’s a big swing against the Libs. No wonder Turnbull looks so worried.
    On reflection, it would be a very bad look for Turnbull to opoose Newhouse’s candidacy per se before the election. Like he was so scared of losing he’d do anything to remove his opponent. Otoh, maybe he is so scared of losing he’d do anything to remove his opponent.

  74. suzeoz says:

    The other thing, no one on this thread has mentioned Overington’s emails to Newhouse, which as Margaret Simons said in Crikey yesterday, have a much bigger yuck factor than her emails to Dani. They really make Overington look bad and stupid. Newhouse comes out of them quite well. And they could consolidate some Jewish voters behind him, given some of her remarks.

  75. Shaun says:

    Re Newhouse, PM ran a good story on the issue of his candidacy yesterday evening. A transcript can be found here. Also mention the cases of Phil Cleary and Jackie Kelly.

  76. gandhi says:

    Newhouse’s failure to show up for today’s debate (he cited “personal reasons”) is interesting. Could it be due to the stress imposed by this Ms O. story? EG you have to wonder what his wife thought about those flirtatious emails!

    Of course, more likely he is still working out how to respond to the resignation issue. But it would be very sad to see Turnbull gallop to victory in Wentworth: he has done nothing to deserve it.

  77. gandhi says:

    Re the “wife” comment, Newhouse is “technically still married” according to Wikipedia. So I’ll stand by my idle late-night spekulashun…

  78. mbahnisch says:

    EG you have to wonder what his wife thought about those flirtatious emails!

    I don’t think he’s married, gandhi. Hard to square with Ecuyer being his girlfriend up until recently.

    On the points suze made, Newhouse does seem to be disappeared a lot by head office. As with Nicole Cornes in Boothby, that can’t be a good look.

    Thanks for the local perspective to jo as well!

  79. mbahnisch says:

    We crossed comments, gandhi. What does “technically married” mean, divorce not final?

  80. jo says:

    thanks suzeoz – missed yesterday’s crikey with the two wentworth pieces – i needn’t have bothered!! (came home from work and spent a lotta time trying to find rudd’s campaign speech online – probably up today. )

    christian kerr also feels malcolm is much more popular on the ground here in wentworth than was appreciated from outside.

    “He is the first local member here in Wentworth in my adult life who has worked for our votes, worked and actually done anything as a local member,” Crikey was told by a Newhouse supporter. “His energy is tremendous and he is a great local member.” A former minor party candidate praised Turnbull’s campaign energy.”

    And i think these comments are right on the money:

    “It seems to be a very curious time in Wentworth. “Long term Liberals want Rudd as prime minister, but for Malcolm to lead the Liberals,” Crikey has been told. It’s a curious conundrum. Many disaffected Wentworth Liberals who despise John Howard see Turnbull as the future of the party, but how do they cast their ballots? What if their votes let Howard win? Labor supporters who like Turnbull’s small l liberalism are equally confused.”

    thanks mark – that’s enuff from me on wentworth for a while! – anything happening in say, umm, higgins??

    **and will definitely be trying to make the bat & ball next sat night. it’s the pub we meet at before & after swannies games at the sgc (when i’m not taking kiddies that is).

  81. jo says:

    SCG. sydney..cricket..ground.

  82. mbahnisch says:

    Cool, look forward to catching up, jo!

  83. Waitaminute… LP is meant to be a Brisbane blog. Has the whole site decamped for Emerald City? Where’s OUR LP Election nite partee?

  84. Helen says:

    he was saying that Labor had no problems with Turnbull becoming a PM in the future. It was Tony Abbott they were worried about.

    Well it’s obvious innit, if you have to choose between two bad things, you choose Liberal politician-but-halfway-sane over Liberal-attack-dog-barking-foaming-mad-tool-of-the-Catholic-church.

    (I’m trying to remember who the brilliant blogger was who compared the choice between Howard and Latham in the last election as a choice between his cat’s vomit and his excrement. Rob Schaap?)

  85. joe2 says:

    “He is a local councillor in Sydney’s eastern suburbs: short, dark, Jewish and passionate about her.”

    So said Ms Overington in one of the articles that Media Watch examined. I find that kind of stuff slightly scarey. Does anybody know whether anybody from the Jewish community complained about this very obvious racial stereotyping under the guise of “colour” journalism?

    In case anybody missed it, Media Watch did a pretty good job on their site to back up their argument. Sadly, no direct links to the articles that they made the quotes from, that I could see.

    http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2088770.htm

  86. Foucault A Go Go says:

    mbahnisch

    Wentworth folks, how well known around the traps was Dani Ecuyer before this all broke?

    If you grew up in the area, you would have known a while ago. She is an extremely canny media tart. The only time she has ever been west of Ocean Street Woollahra was to get to the airport, Thredbo, or the GPS regatta. She’s an investement banker who grew up in Bellevue Hill and went to Ascham. She could both bed and fleece Peter Foster.

    As I said earlier, Danielle Ecuyer has won this one beautifully. Judging by how easily many here seem to have fallen for her “oh my, I thought journalists were supposed to be like priests in a confessional. Nobody told me!!”

    To look at this as a “Left/Right” issue makes me bang my head on the table at either how gullible people are or how seductive and manipulative both Ecuyer and Overington are.

    The Winners? Two very good-looking, ambitious, and savvy Eastern Suburbs women.

    The Losers? Common sense and healthy scepticism.

  87. gandhi says:

    Foucalt,

    Surely exposing this sort of trashy journalism – whoever does it – can only be beneficial to Democracy in the long run?

    I’m not sure Ecuyer has really gained much from all this, unless she is just hoping for minor celebrity status (Big Brother 08?). She is not going to win the seat.

    In fact, rather ironically, Turnbull will probably come out best from all this.

  88. Foucault A Go Go says:

    gandhi

    As I said earlier you are very naive not only about the media but now even about democracy. Democracy is about the rough and tumble of millions of reasonably provided for and represented adults negotiating their individual desires, longings, bigotries, failings, and let the cards fall where they may.

    The fact that Media Watch even chose this piece is a very strong argument that parts of the ABC neither understand nor respect democracy. However, both Attard and Palmer are gone, so let’s not blame the institution as a whole.

  89. silkworm says:

    According to today’s Australian, Newhouse has received legal advice from John McCarthy QC that the date of his resignation is irrelevant, because “NSW legislation stipulates that the office of any member of the tribunal becomes automatically vacant if he or she nominates for a federal seat”. OK, Malcolm, over to you.

  90. Foucault A Go Go says:

    In the meantime, Australia’s most important electorate is reduced to a gameshow.

  91. jinmaro says:

    “In the meantime, Australia’s most important electorate is reduced to a gameshow.”

    Well, aren’t you used to that sort of thing, FAGG?

    I reckon it could be something cooked up between the two. Either way, personal revenge definitely ain’t the motive here for Ms Ascham.

    Stuff it, I’m going to pop into her election night party and get the lowdown on this.

  92. grace pettigrew says:

    This nomination kerfuffle has Andrew Robb’s fingerprints all over it. Does not matter whether there is anything substantive in the allegation, the noise is all that matters. Turnbull is probably no more than an innocent bystander. And he does need to keep his nose clean.

  93. gandhi says:

    Foucault,

    Merci beaucoup pour les avis.

    I fart in your general direction.

  94. jinmaro says:

    The whole thing about Newhouse is a heap of crap and everyone knows it.

    No-one should have to step down from their public service job because as a citizen they wish to run for political office. Since when are public servants officially supposed to be partisan and beholden to one political party?

    Stupid regulations and laws should be defied and thrown into the rubbish bin of history. And telling, ain’t it, that it took an Aboriginal woman who happens to be a D-G, to tell the idiots to go f”k themselves. Most people, to the extent they care about such idiocy, will agree. This is an non-story, legless.

  95. Katz says:

    Gandhi and Fagogo argue like two nuns debating precisely when sin occurs in a brothel.

    Politics needs more cat fights, especially between opponents whose claws are so expensively manicured.

    And Media Witch has done fine service as procuress of this spectacle.

  96. jinmaro says:

    Correction: Linda Burney is a Minister, She was a a former D-G (DAA). I often confuse the two positions, because (long story) there ain’t a lot of difference, in the end, between the two.

  97. joe2 says:

    “And Media Witch has done fine service as procuress of this spectacle.”

    The thing that gets me, is that this MW team, had to wait for their swansong to deliver this pin into the voudou, muckrake, machine.

    Aunty will need help, once the abusers have gone, rather than vengeance that some seem ,understandably, inclined to.

  98. Sam Clifford says:

    Down and out, I’d be more than happy to take some time out from the party at Greens HQ to meet up with other Brisbane LPers.

  99. Ambigulous says:

    Ah Katz,

    Politics needs more cat fights? Is that to balance up against the little-boys-in-the-sandpit fights?

    Mais j’aime l’affaire Overhimnow.
    C’est tres belle. Les belles lettres, les belles femmes, et les journaux.

  100. Katz says:

    I have vivid childhood memories of the fecal attraction of cats to sandpits.

  101. suzeoz says:

    “**and will definitely be trying to make the bat & ball next sat night. it’s the pub we meet at before & after swannies games at the sgc (when i’m not taking kiddies that is).”

    Jo, I don’t think it’s that Bat and Ball. You probably mean the one on the corner of Cleveland St but this one is in Chippendale.

  102. Shaun says:

    I thought this was the only Bat and Ball. If so it is the on jo mentions. Been there before and after many a SCG event.

    Can’t be there for the election night alas but will have my own fun.

  103. Down and out, I’d be more than happy to take some time out from the party at Greens HQ to meet up with other Brisbane LPers.

    Sam and Down and Out, maybe the LP Facebook group would be a good mechanism to coordinate and organise something. It doesn’t have to be done by us. There’s lots of Brissie LP readers on there.

  104. You probably mean the one on the corner of Cleveland St but this one is in Chippendale.

    Suze, the address on the flyer is 495 Cleveland St, Surry Hills.

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