Liberal dirt unit is working overtime

A quick survey of today’s broadsheets reveals that the Liberal Party dirt unit has been working overtime and is coming up with zilch.

Apparently 13 ALP candidates are still listed as employed on government websites. So they MUST HAVE BROKEN THE LAW, you know, because government websites are renowned for being up to date. Oh, and the Liberal Party is waiting for the ALP to produce evidence that no crimes were committed before they will refer it to the AEC. I’m not really sure on what planet that makes sense.

Even worse than that, a staffer of George Newhouse is anti Semitic Zionist, which is a crime against humanity or something. Especially when the Jew hating pinko ALP staffer’s boss is Jewish and his father was a Zionist.

Finally Tony Abbott is given a free pass in the SMH to have another go at running his “Are all you voters are so dumb that you don’t realize that we are the greatest thing that ever happened to you?” argument. Though, I don’t care about that one so much because every time Abbott tries to communicate he offends about three-quarters of the population.

Seriously, is this all they’ve got? Where’s the sex, drugs, and scandal? Frankly, I just don’t think that their hearts are in it anymore.

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Michael (mick) Bremner is a displaced Australian postdoctoral researcher in the field of quantum information science and an occasional blogger. I'm currently living in Hannover, Germany, though seem to spend half my life on the road.

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78 comments on “Liberal dirt unit is working overtime
  1. The bones of this campaign will be picked over for a long time as people ask how the Liberals managed to engineer the devastating landslide that threw them out of office. Everything that the illiberals have tried since Rudd took the ALP leadership has been either smear or panic, they lost this election back in December on the back of their desire to put ideology before good policy.

  2. mick says:

    Well said Dave, really well said.

  3. Paul Burns says:

    Unfortunately they are still pushing the 13 illegal candidate smear and its getting a litle bit of traction, on SBS last night and a big push on Channel 9 this morning. Its real inttent may be to protect Turnbull’s seat primarily, then try to scarew off voters for fear of a by-election. Its utterly immoral, and as I’ve noted on another thread, tantamant to stealing the election. But will it work for them enough ti save them? Is this the last week election jolt, and are we being foolish dismissing it. We are all aware of the filth that this lot can get up to.

  4. Paul Burns says:

    Excuse the spelling errors above but its impossible to see what I’m typing over over words.

  5. Iain says:

    Ah, Tony Abbot, arrogant fuckwit personified. It will be so, so sweet if they lose.

  6. mick says:

    Andrew Robb can smack talk with the best of them. The only reason that this stuff is getting traction is because the last 24 hours or so have been essentially devoid of policy. Hopefully Rudd puts out his accountability policy later today, that will revitalize the news cycle somewhat.

  7. Katz says:

    The Liberals scratch and claw hysterically for traction. In horror, they realise that they are sliding, sliding, sliding into the abyss.

  8. mick says:

    Yes, it does look a bit desperate doesn’t it? Hopefully that’s the way the folk in Wentworth will see it.

  9. gandhi says:

    OTOH Rudd has gone awfully quiet, hasn’t he? If this dirt is getting traction, it’s largely because Rudd is not giving the media another story to work with.

    Why doesn’t he bring Tony Tran or David Hicks into the picture, or demand a resignation from Andrews? Like Hawke said, he doesn’t want to “scare the horses”. So he sits back and lets the Libs make asses of themselves…

    DONT FUCK IT UP KEV!

  10. Mindy says:

    I think many of the Liberals are gearing up for a big “I told you so” when Labor forms government. Tony Abbott will be first in line.

  11. mick says:

    Bloody hell. The ABC has picked up on the whole “Zionism” story. They must be really bored. The headline reads “Newhouse staffer in anti-Zionist row”. It then goes on to not mention any row at all. Brilliant reporting. [link]

  12. Fred Argy says:

    I am hoping for a Labor victory but all those who are predicting landslides and stuff like that need to take a reality check. The marginals are still a big problem (just look at oday’s news on WA marginals and Adelaide). I fear that Rudd could end up with some 52% of the vote but Howard will have a two-seat majority!

  13. derrida derider says:

    Yep – I noted back in April that the government was behaving like an opposition, not a government, and that this was really dreadful strategy.

    They should have been acting all presidential, talking mainly about what *they* were doing, and saying as little as possible about the Opposition. When they did mention Rudd it should have been a dismissive “he’s a boring bureaucrat” (which he is). Instead we got this garbage about him being a tool of commie Islamofascist union thugs who’ll roon the country.

    Howard should have remembered that he really damaged Beazley by simply ignoring him and then dismissing him with “he hasn’t got the ticker”.

    The root problem the tories had, of course, is that a lot of them (including the PM) have personal views that are way to the right of most voters. So if they actually did government-type things then they’d either have to be things that were as popular as rat poison or that would split their cabinet.

  14. Paul Burns says:

    Fred Argy,
    What might happen in the West scares me too.
    To what extent are rural cretins and dumb suburbanites going to be influenced by stories like the 13 Labor candidates etc.not just in the West but everywhere.? If that sounds elitist, remember the last Four Corners.
    Friends, the suspense is killing me.

  15. Chris Anderson says:

    Fred and others.

    If Labor ends up on 52 percent 2PP it will win. Maybe not by as much as we will like, but it will win. As has been mentioned elsewhere teh most lopsiding result was 1998 when Labor won 50.98 2PP. Historical evidence suggestst that the Government must win 49 percent 2PP to win with a marginal seats strategy.

  16. jethro says:

    To what extent are rural cretins and dumb suburbanites going to be influenced by stories like the 13 Labor candidates etc.

    The angle here is pushing the “if they can’t even nominate correctly how can they run the country” line.

  17. Iain says:

    You minions of the left can’t help whining when the Ruddites have stuffed up can you? If a number of candidates have indeed failed to ensure that they are properly eligible to be elected I think that it is entirely prudent to make that known to the electors of the seats that they are standing for.
    As for the anti Zionism on your side of politics perhaps it is time to admit your sins and re-evaluate some of your policy positions with regard to Israel in particular, and the Jewish people in general, particularly in the way that you wilfully ignore the clear anti-Semitism in the sort of causes, people and entities that you support.(think the Palestinians, Hamas Iraqi insurgents et al here)
    8)

  18. Paul Burns says:

    Well, jethro, the Libs are probably gone then. That’s too subtle. I thought it was “Yer gunna have ter come back for a by-election and before that the country will be unrunable.”

  19. joe2 says:

    Secret Dirt Unit Brief.
    Enter stage right on election almost eve…
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/21/2096467.htm
    and…

    “We are the only ones who can secure our boarders.
    Queue jumpers are organising leaky boats and already have a bit of a sniff of a Labor victory.”

  20. Guido says:

    About Wentworth. This is no battler territory. These are affluent voters who have the luxury to get informed about issues. The shenenigans about whether Newhouse is eligible will backfire because it will be seen for what it is.

    The other candidates have all been confirmed that they are legally entitled to be elected. The only one that is not as yet is Karlgoolie I think. And remeber whe Jakie Kelly was also elected and then she had to go through a by election for the same reason, she got a 5% swing towards her!

    The refugee issue is now not a big one. It has lost its impact when those who feared to be swamped saw that it did not happen. If anything it will help Labor in seats like Wentworth and others like that where the Liberal liberals who are disgusted by Howard’s refugee policies reside.

  21. Gaz says:

    “As for the anti Zionism on your side of politics perhaps it is time to admit your sins and re-evaluate some of your policy positions with regard to Israel in particular, and the Jewish people in general, particularly in the way that you wilfully ignore the clear anti-Semitism in the sort of causes, people and entities that you support.(think the Palestinians, Hamas Iraqi insurgents et al here)”

    They’re coming out of the woodwork now aint they?

    My God I didn’t know as a lefty I was anti semitic,I will ask my Grandmother where I went wrong she was born in Palestine,she was a jew.Tight as a fishes arse as I remember her, and that’s water tight.

    You Sir are a dill.

  22. Either a candidate has a legit nomination, or they haven’t.

    If not, then bad luck, they go home empty handed & someone else goes to Canberra.

    Simple.

  23. mbahnisch says:

    These tactics don’t suggest that the Coalition really believe they are on track to win “in the marginals despite the national polling”. They suggest utter desperation.

  24. jethro says:

    You minions of the left can’t help whining when the Ruddites have stuffed up can you?

    The issue here is that the allegation that the ALP candidates are ineligible to contest the election is not backed up by any hard evidence.

    It is a transparent tactic to claim that any candidate that previously had a public service job somehow has a “question mark” against their eligibility if they haven’t (presumably) sent a statutory declaration to Liberal Party HQ confirming their resignation prior to enrollment.

    So the allegation gets thrown out to the media, who run with the “question mark against eligibility of ALP candidates” line, which (I assume) the Liberal Party is hoping could sway potential swinging voters to vote against the ALP (for any number of reasons: the “can’t nominate, can’t govern” line I mentioned previously, or the “better not vote for a clown that might get thrown out” line).

    That the allegations are almost certainly bullshit (the so-called “evidence” is laughable, and the Liberal Party seem too embarrassed to even forward any complaint to the AEC) is irrelevant. Fling the poo and hope it sticks is the tactic.

  25. boredinHK says:

    “To what extent are rural cretins and dumb suburbanites going to be influenced by stories like the 13 Labor candidates etc.not just in the West but everywhere.? ”

    Ah ,the all inclusive Australian left. Thank God the inner cities exist then .
    This thread is stretching the LP comments policy isn’t it ?
    Fuckwits , rural cretins – what’s next from the nervous nellie collective ?

  26. mick says:

    They have Steve, that’s the point.

    Andrew Robb *didn’t* refer this to the AEC, who is the appropriate legal authority for assessing a candidate’s validity. If he wanted the issue to be sorted out then he could just refer it to them, but that’s not what he wants.

    Oh, and Iain, you are clearly just hear to troll, so whatever. There’s a huge difference between being anti Semitic and anti Zionist. Indeed the staffer in question, Rose Jackson, made her “anti-Zionist” comments while chastising someone for anti-Semitism (you actually have to read the article to find that out).

  27. mick says:

    boredinHK is right. Some of the comments are definitely pushing the limit.

    People, play nice or you’re out. Insulting comments won’t be tolerated.

  28. suzeoz says:

    Rudd is live at the National Press Club now – access via SMH front page.

  29. For a rational alternative to everything that is wrong with political mudslinging, please consider voting for the Secular Party of Australia, whose candidates are listed on their site.

  30. mick says:

    Am watching it now. Did he give a speech? I missed the beginning.

  31. mbahnisch says:

    Thanks for the headsup, Suze. I’m watching now – Rudd’s acquitting himself well.

  32. mbahnisch says:

    Yep, there was a speech at the beginning.

  33. mick says:

    Crap, stupid new computer not having the right plug-ins…

  34. suzeoz says:

    I only caught 10 minutes of the speech myself (not sure how long it was), but noticed that it was much more aggressively anti-Howard and Costello than I’d heard him be before – which was the right touch, I thought.

  35. mick says:

    At the moment, talking about his timetable for the next year, he sound’s very wonkish. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing.

  36. mbahnisch says:

    He is very wonkish, and it’s as much a pitch to the public service mandarins in the audience as anything else, I suspect – and to the senior journos to seem responsible/ready to govern etc. There wouldn’t be much of a broader audience for something like this.

  37. mick says:

    His stuff up towards the end was funny. He said, “We didn’t just pull these policies out of our…”, then he laughed and said, “I almost said ear”. It’s good to see that he can laugh about his embarrassing YouTube experience.

  38. mick says:

    That’s kinda what I was wondering. None of that was good for a soundbite but it might help sway some of the journos in the room.

  39. Stu says:

    They’re also putting out leaflets in marginals with smears against the Greens including blatantly dishonest claims like that the Greens want to legalise heroin. I guess by the time they get the slap on the wrist from the AEC the election will be over so they don’t care. They aren’t game to put their name on it either, you can only tell it’s the libs from the authorisation. Anon Lefty has blogged about it at http://anonymouslefty.blogspot.com/.

  40. Helen says:

    The Brethren are doing the same – putting out pamphlets smearing the Greens, that is. People who won’t vote themselves. Why are these people even tolerated?

  41. Mindy says:

    Stu – link doesn’t seem to be working.

  42. Paul Burns says:

    Stu,
    There are anti-Green ads of similar content being aired on regional TV.

  43. Iain says:

    Oh, and Iain, you are clearly just hear to troll, so whatever. There’s a huge difference between being anti Semitic and anti Zionist. Indeed the staffer in question, Rose Jackson, made her “anti-Zionist” comments while chastising someone for anti-Semitism (you actually have to read the article to find that out).

    Mick
    Mate one of the good things about the net is being able to take on the arguments of one’s political opposites on a one to one basis. Sadly many political bloggers of all persuasions seem to often lack the intestinal fortitude to do exactly that, preferring instead to dismiss difficult questions with accusations of “trolling” and to cluster around the like minded where it is safe and intellectually easy.
    I did actually read the piece and in fact I wrote a post about it as well. But I stand by the assessment that for a large number of lefties anti Zionism is just “code” for anti -Semitism. Rose Jackson may indeed be innocent of any anti-Semitism herself but even from the quotes in the paper she does seem willing to offer comfort and support for those whose view of Israel and the Jews is far less benign.
    8)

  44. mbahnisch says:

    None of that was good for a soundbite but it might help sway some of the journos in the room.

    Soundbites will come from the speech at the start, I would imagine.

  45. Guise says:

    Question: since when did being a lecturer at university consitute holding and office of profit under the Crown? Given how much money the Government has ripped out of the universities, this is more than a bit cheeky. And really, Andrew Robb should have known better. Especially after his lucrative gig as an advisor to a higher education lobby group …

  46. mbahnisch says:

    Never. It’s rubbish.

  47. mbahnisch says:

    Having watched an incredibly soporific and confused performance from Robb early in the campaign on Lateline, I was left wondering where he got his rep as a brilliant political mind. I can’t see it. Probably one of those whose reputations will head southwards as the Libs go down to defeat.

  48. Peterc says:

    Dirt and lies is all they have left. How do they lie straight in bed at night? No morals, no ethics. Tut tut, looks they are REALLY scared of losing.

  49. Bingo Bango Boingo says:

    It sure is very desperate stuff, and the whole ’13 illegal candidates’ message is destined to have next to no impact on anyone or anything, but I have to agree with Robb re: Newhouse’s resignation story. Last I heard the story was that he chose to tender his resignation from the NSW Consumer, Trader and Tenancy Tribunal by way of an undated letter. Newhouse is a lawyer of considerable standing. The story lacks credibility, to say the least.

    BBB

  50. jinmaro says:

    Tsk tsk. George Newhouse has offended BBB’s sense of propiety and laser-like moral sensibility. This is simply insupportable for BBB. BBB is a gentleman and swears by the manly code: Honour Above Everything.

    BBB wants to seek vengeance on behalf of our slighted maiden-like honour. For Newhouse is a dissembler. A cad and a bounder.

    BBB knows he must seek a second, give Newhouse notice of his intent and issue the necessary ultimatum: Newhouse’s immediate withdrawal as a federal candidate or a choice of pistols or rapiers.

    Dawn, Friday.
    El Alamein Fountain, Kings Cross.

    To be signed:
    The mark of BBB.

    Justice will prevail. Thanks to BBB.
    All hail BBB.

  51. Bingo Bango Boingo says:

    ‘Manly codes’? ‘Maiden-like honour’? Talk about jumping at shadows. Newhouse’s ‘undated resignation letter’ story just sounds like rubbish. That’s all. I mean, it’s not as if he’s some hack suburban solicitor. He’s a hotshot!

    Seriously jinmaro, don’t lose it now. You’re about to share in a famous victory. If you can keep it together, it’ll be exhilarating. To come this far, only to have the last lingering strands of sanity unwind on you before polling day, would be tragic.

    Cheers
    BBB

  52. jinmaro says:

    ah, BBB, to live like a tadpole. Sigh.

    But as Shakespeare said, to live like a tadpole is, for some, an outcome devoutly to be wished. So who am I to throw stones into your puddle?

    Enjoy, BBB. And think too of Blake.

  53. snorky says:

    I’ve come to this thread late, but fortunately am now able to note that the 13 ineligible Labor candidates shock horror scoop exclusive was not sighted in tonight’s MSM news, and seems to have sunk like a stone already. Another failed plot from the masterclass tacticians who brought us the Burke scandal and all the others that have entertained us so royally over the past months.

  54. Gaz says:

    “To come this far, only to have the last lingering strands of sanity unwind on you before polling day, would be tragic.”

    It is the day after the polling day I worry about.I wont become unwound,I will become unhinged.

  55. GregM says:

    Guise:

    “Question: since when did being a lecturer at university consitute holding and office of profit under the Crown? Given how much money the Government has ripped out of the universities, this is more than a bit cheeky. And really, Andrew Robb should have known better. Especially after his lucrative gig as an advisor to a higher education lobby group …”

    Mark:

    “Never. It’s rubbish.”

    I’m a bit iffy about that answer Mark, given the High Court decision in Sykes v Cleary http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1992/60.html

    I haven’t researched it but I think that the term “office of profit under the Crown” has been drawn pretty broadly by the High Court, and so could possibly apply to lecturers at Australia’s publicly funded universities.

  56. mbahnisch says:

    Maybe so, GregM. But there’s not much profit to the office these days, and the Crown doesn’t come up with anywhere near a majority of the coin in most universities.

  57. steve h says:

    Well bugger me sideways with a kipper – the Libs are playing the “they aren’t playing by the rules” trick again. As much as I dislike Pauline’s idiocy (this is one “rural” who hates bigotry in all forms) it was pretty bloody obvious when she got done for electoral fraud (memory hazy due to beer!) that the Libs were playing a take-no-prisoners game which was pretty damn aggressive. I’m wondering how many are comparing what happened to her with the current allegations against the Labour mob. It seems that the Libs have learnt some nasty tactics from the yanks and aren’t afraid to use them again – even though it probably won’t help.
    As for “office of profit under the Crown”, if this includes academics then one wonders how many others are included on the list…maybe we should exclude business people who have placed political adverts in future? Or unionists of all flavours? If taken to a stupid extreme then a “political class” will be the only people entitled to run for elections – not that this doesn’t happen already!
    OT – I’m bloody happy I remembered to do a postal vote again, just one more leaflet pushed in my face will ensure I “go postal” 😮

  58. Katz says:

    Reading the Cleary case, one is impressed by how difficult it is for a person employed as an officer and paid by the public purse to stand for office.

    The definition of officer is very broad indeed. It depends on whether the person employed is designated as an “officer” under the relevant act, whether federal or state. Salary and emoluments, including, it would seem, superannuation constitute “profit”.

    Under those circumstances, it would be difficult administratively for an “officer” to disentangle herself from her pecuniary attachments to the Crown, should she wish to run for elected office.

    But perhaps more disturbingly, it may be necessary for an officer to resign without any understanding that she may be re-employed in her prior position, or any other position of profit under the Crown should she so choose at the end of her career in elected office.

    This makes it very difficult for a teacher or a police officer to run for office.

    Yet, a farmer who may be in receipt of drought assistance from the federal government to a sum much higher than they highest teachers’ salary is not thereby disqualified from running for elected office.

    Surely, pork barrelling is much more conducive of corruption than a humble teacher’s salary.

  59. Bingo Bango Boingo says:

    No, no, no. I am not the tadpole, jinmaro. Newhouse is the tadpole. He’s broached on the point of the rapier you mentioned. Blake’s a tougher ask.

    BBB

  60. Paul Burns says:

    I suppose this will also have similar posts on other threads. I have just spent the last half-hour watching Lateline and laughing my head off.If there’s such a thing as poetic justice after that Tampa incisent, the Libs are getting a good dose of it.

  61. silkworm says:

    For your amusement, may I present Kevin 007 – The Man With The Golden Jaw

  62. Shaun says:

    Also late to the the party but both News and the SMH seemed to be skeptical of the validity of Robb’s smear from the start of the news cycle this morning. As it was revealed that the source was Robb’s google fu it soon disappeared from the news cycle.

    If there was any electoral damage it had to be at expense of the LIbs.

  63. Futt Bucker says:

    The Libs sink to even further all-time lows:

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/libs-face-racism-probe/2007/11/21/1195321871812.html

    Also has anyone here heard of the “Focus on Australia Foundation”? They ran a pro-WorkChoices ad on SBS tonight right after Newstopia. Supposedly they’re from Coomera,Qld and the ad was authorised by a G.Le Bon and spoken by R.Colby.

  64. Katz says:

    Jackie Kelly praises her husband’s fake ALP pamphlets as a “Chaser-style prank”.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/a-chaserstyle-prank/2007/11/22/1195321873077.html

    Memo to Jackie.

    When The Chaser pulls a stunt they also have a full film and production unit in attendance. That’s how the rest of us get to see their jolly japes.

    So, when do we get to see the Liberal Party footage of this hilarious excursion into sophomoric satire Jackie?

    What’s that? There isn’t any Liberal Party footage of this signal moment in Australian political humour?

    Someone has clearly stuffed up. Heads must roll!

    PS. Will there be Liberal Party footage of Liberal heads rolling?

    Now that would be funny.

  65. Gaz says:

    This whole grubby exercise shouldn’t even be dignified with a reply.What an insult to the intelligence.This is beyond a prank,and the offenders should be arrested and prosecuted.

  66. Ambigulous says:

    Jackie Kelly as Chaser wannabe

    Well, it won’t wash. As Michelle Grattan pointed out on RN this morning, EITHER it was disgusting and offensive OR it was a joke. The Liberal Party can’t have it both ways.

    And Mr Morrow indicated to Fran this morning that an Authentic Chaser (c) prank requires somebody dressed as Osama bin Laden to be in attendance.

    But wait, must voters now reassess every Coalition statement and leaflet, sifting through to pick out the satirical, the self-mocking, the ironic and the whimsy? That’s a BIG ASK, B. Loughnane of Canberra.

    And by what criteria are the voters to discern the intended humour?????????? !!!!!!!

    Another free kick to Kruddy: the Mantle of the Political Smirk will be passed from P. Costello to K. Rudd this afternoon at a brief and simple ceremony.

  67. Ambigulous says:

    Still, it’s nice to see the Sheikh make a reappearance in public life – we’ve missed him!

    cheerio

  68. Paul Norton says:

    I was utterly bemused by Kelly’s bizarre performance on ABC News Radio and Channel Nine this morning. I kept wondering to myself “Has Liberal HQ really cleared her to come out with this?” Howard’s immediate condemnation of the racist leaflets and of her comments suggests not, but the whole affair also suggests that the Liberals are suffering from a terminal case of DDDD – Decency and Discipline Deficit Disorder.

  69. Ambigulous says:

    Liberal Party Downsizes ~

    August 2001: “We’re Keeping the Towelheads Out!”, directed by JWH, P Ruddock et al; using Navy, Air Force, Customs, Immigration + a grateful media – it was a slow news year

    November 2007: “The ALP is Cuddling Up to the Towelheads!”, directed by a coupla guys with a colour photocopier, inc one who duzzen wanna see his mug shot in the papers.

    What happened to the dog whistler? Was he distracted by other matters? Subtle this was NOT.

  70. Ambigulous says:

    Paul Norton

    Yes: I was particularly bemused by La Kelly’s question, “Where is this interview heading?” after she had ALREADY condemned her party’s campaigners antics by her artless answers, and ALREADY said approximately 100 times more than a prudent partisan should.

    Her interview has to rate up there with some of Tony Abbott’s gems of the last several weeks.

  71. Ambigulous says:

    Liberal Sh*t Unit

    1. Collect heap of stinking ordure.
    2. Apply to one’s own face, preferably in front of a camera.
    3. Voila! Instant national publicity.
    4. PM joins the gabfest.

    Sh*t a brick.

  72. goodtobewithyou says:

    If you wanna avoid those crap election ads (eg: “extremists, learners, fanatics”) that are pandemic on the the msm websites, at least theage, I’ve found that DISABLING JAVASCRIPT in browser ( tools/options in Flock/firefox) does the trick and treats them as they should be: left unseen.

    It works for me anyway, I might be missing other worthy ads, but it’s an acceptable price to pay to get rid of those hideous liberal ones.

    I’m no expert but the ones on the age pages are flash files, from a server au.2mdn.net, which is registered to Doubleclick Inc, so if anyone can tell of a way to banish crap from these guys, I’d much appreciate it.

  73. David Rubie says:

    goodtobewithyou: if you’re using Firefox, get the Flashblock plugin. It allows you to selectively display the ads/flash you want to see. It’s great.

  74. silkworm says:

    My contact deep within the Tesla community has told me a few things about the Turnbull rain tech fiasco.

    a) It uses the same techology as HAARP, to stimulate the ionosphere to produce a low pressure system. According to my contact, there is an unwanted rebound effect that produces a series of high pressure systems, which would prolong the drought, the very opposite of what the technology purports to achieve.

    b) The Australian Rain Corp is 75% Swiss-owned, and one of the main, if not the chief, shareholders in this Swiss company is Turnbull. Therefore his grant of $10 million is effectively a payoff to himself.

    I further contend that, whether this device works or not, its mode of operation means this device has military potential, and even by revealing the existence of such a device, Turnbull’s actions constitute a breach of national security.

  75. goodtobewithyou says:

    Silk- your suggestion about turnbull being shareholder in Aust Rain Corp: are you sure that’s not a chinese whisper on the 7.30 report’s

    “Malcolm Turnbull’s fundraising group the Wentworth Forum, includes a long list of generous donors including Frank Lowy, Ros Packer, John Simons, and Matt Handbury, chairman and part-owner of the so-called Australian Rain Corporation, beneficiary of the Minister’s funding…Mr Handbury is the wealthy nephew of Rupert Murdoch and chairman and proprietor of Murdoch Books, which is the headquarters for Australian Rain Corporation…The 7.30 Report put to Malcolm Turnbull the following questions: has Matt Handbury’s contribution to your fundraising Wentworth Forum helped in securing funding for the Australian Rain Corporation? “There is absolutely no connection,” he said “That is an outrageous suggestion”. Secondly, why couldn’t the Matt Handbury Swiss consortium pay for its own research? Response: “The company is contributing funding to the research and trial.”

    We can take it from that that turnbull knows some detail of “handbury swiss consortium” financial situation, he would surely have had to conduct due diligence, but that’s not same as him being an actual shareholder.

    We know from Alpine Press (Rivkin, Richardson, trevor kennedy) insurance fiasco how hard it is to get truth out of switzerland about corporations, so even if turnbull was on ARC shareholder register there, the fact won’t come out that way before election.

    So if you have good intelligence about it, or even semi-good, send an anonymous tipoff to crikey http://www.crikey.com.au/Anonymous-Tips.html. They’re pros at this sort of thing.

  76. goodtobewithyou says:

    And Mr Rubie: thanks for heads up. I’m using Flock but I think it’s based on firefox code, so such a plug in might just work.

  77. silkworm says:

    I’m not sure about the shareholder info. All I was told was that Turnbull had put lots of his own money into the Swiss company. This may be just a guess on the part of my contact.

    I hope there is an investigation into this whole affair after the election. I want to know more about Turnbull’s relationship with Handbury and the origins of Australian Rain Corp.

  78. gandhi says:

    “Has Liberal HQ really cleared her to come out with this?”

    I think the obvious point is that the party is now in freefall, JHo’s authority is gone, and it’s a mad grab for power in the vaccuum.

    Karen Chijoff STILL has not made a public comment on this smear campaign, which tells you all you need to know. Her husband has apologised and resigned from the liberal Party, but she hereself is silent – WHY?? HE says she knew nothing. She says nothing.

    Not. Good. Enough.

    Howard should have demanded some very fast, public answers from her, or he should have dismissed her on the spot. Her silence is now damning.

    Rudd has already dumped several Union members for far less, remember.

    Put your money on a big landslide, folks. I just hope Labor make the most of it!

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