Saturday Salon

An open thread, where at your weekend leisure, you can discuss anything you like.

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  1. kuke says:

    Double-climate fail with Obama admitting defeat on climate: Democrats Call Off Climate Bill Effort and Australia’s Gillard Is Under Fire for Reneging on Climate Control Pledges

    Meanwhile Laurie Oakes hammers Australian politics: Gillard ushers in the era of farce

  2. hannah's dad says:

    ALP 54: COALition 46 Nielsen poll.

    Hawks and Saints ….a draw.

  3. Helen says:

    A question for the more party-political savvy here: If you publish a letter to a local paper in another electorate with commentary designed to sway voting intentions, during a political campaign, is it considered ethically necessary to disclose if you’re an active party member or other functionary? Just wondering.
    (Wondering, also, why they bother – we’re the second safest seat in Victoria or something like that)

  4. Helen says:

    Should have read, election campaign, not political campaign!

  5. akn says:

    Thanks Adrian on ‘Open Elction Thread’ for drawing attention to:

    The federal government has censored approximately 90 per cent of a secret document outlining its controversial plans to snoop on Australians’ web surfing, obtained under freedom of information (FoI) laws, out of fear the document could cause “premature unnecessary debate”.

    What an Orwellian concept is “premature unnecessary debate”.

  6. Pavlov's Cat says:

    Last I read about Pauline she was moving permanently to the UK and shaking the dust of Australia off her feet. Maybe the UK decided it was being swamped by Australians and declined to have her.

  7. mbahnisch says:

    @DrCat, actually, the Cameron government’s restrictions on non-EU immigration have made it significantly harder for Australian citizens to go and reside in the UK.

  8. Pavlov's Cat says:

    Yes, I remember reading about that. Hanson’s mother was born in Ireland IIRC — I wonder if that makes it easier or harder. Back when she was a political force of sorts (God it’s something like 13-14 years ago) I often wondered how she’d react if forced to read the history of the way that colonial Australia fretted itself into a coma about the way that Australia was being swamped by the Irish.

  9. Mark says:

    Yes, I’m not sure whether her being born in Ireland makes a difference. But I think she’s in for a shock if she believes England is some sort of monocultural nation.

  10. pablo says:

    akn and ‘premature unnecessary debate’ could equally apply to the non-release of the Murray Darling Comission report on the future direction of the MDB, widely believed to call for further restrictions on irrigation entitlements. I suggest that the acronym ‘pud’ be applied to anything our virile democracy finds just too difficult to contemplate when it comes to exercising a vote.

  11. Andrew Reynolds says:

    Mark,
    She was probably entitled to an Irish passport through her mother – but may have had to officially renounce that entitlement (per s. 44(i) of the Constitution) on going into Federal Parliament.

  12. Me says:

    Some subtlety over at Unca Rupert’s News in the Travel Section:

    “Is travel abduction worth it?
    Air steward ‘threatened jihad’ on airline
    Fear of foreign pilots over Aussie skies
    Parasailing donkey’s mental state unclear
    Aussie woman tells of plane flight terror”

    Be very afraid of foreigners on boats and planes!

  13. mbahnisch says:

    @Andrew, that’s what I was thinking.

  14. Paul Burns says:

    helen,
    No. you don’rt have to publish your political affiliations. (In country towns they’re usually known or discernable if you are a regular letter writer.) In the case you cite, readers would not be able to tell. But I get the impression saome letter writers e-mail their stuff to as many local papers as possible, probably out of frustration that their jewels of political philosophy can’t get publahed in the metropolitan dailies.

  15. faustusnotes says:

    I can’t see recruiting hanson as a step forward for the libs – that horse has well and truly bolted. I also don’t think focussing on immigration will work if they don’t have any other policies. Many people in Australia may be anti-immigration etc., but that doesn’t mean they don’t know a one-trick pony when they see it.

    It’s very different when you’re the incumbent and you can coast in on your record and a bit of xenophobia, to when everyone knows you can’t run the country, and are asking people to vote for you on the basis of your hatred of foreigners only.

  16. sg says:

    I’d like to add, apropos of nothing, that this week has been a hard week for me. Particularly Friday. Specifically:

    a) 6 of my students (20% of the class!) copied their assignments egregiously, in the “borrow my mates file and print it out unchanged” manner. 2 of those students may be getting their scholarship revoked and being sent home to explain to their parents exactly why they deserve to continue breathing; the other 4 are looking like getting 0 for the assignment and possibly the course. My inbox has been peppered with desperate pleading 19 year olds. This culminated in a meeting with the academic office yesterday to decide who to execute.

    b) Last night I had my first ever amateur kickboxing fight on a beach, against a pimp. He won, and now I’m limping about with a very sore rib, wishing I’d spent at least 1 minute of the last year of my life learning how to defend against knee attacks from a taller man.

    So today I have a quite strong sense of relief, now that all those troubles are out of the way, and I fully intend to cruise through next week! This afternoon I’m going to drink beer and watch a mad kazak doctor beat my partner at table tennis.

  17. sg says:

    goddamn wordpress! Sorry everyone, those “faustusnotes” comments are by me, sg.

  18. tigtog says:

    sg/faustusnotes, just realised I can edit the name field so that you do actually look like you. Have done so for this instance.

  19. Paul Burns says:

    Yje other day i watched the DVD of the Tv adaptation of Marcus Clarke’s For the Term of His Natural Life.
    It brought to mind something that has been puzzling me about the book for quite a few years, when it perchance crosses my mind.
    Clearly, the TV version is adapted from what is presumably the authorative Penguin Classics version.
    However, some years before that I remember reading an A & R Australian Classics version of the book which did not have the happy ending of both the TV series and the Penguin Classics version. In the A & R version, Sylvia Frere and Rufus Dawes die in each others arms at the bottom of a cliff somewhere as the waves crash on the rocks. Is my memory playing tricks with me, or are there two versions of Clarke’s book. And, if so, which is the version preferred by Clarke?
    Perhaps some of the Aust. Lit. experts on LP could clear this up for me. It would be much appreciated.

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